Question:
Does the suit make a difference anymore in poker?
All Hail Hypnotoad!
2010-07-12 23:11:03 UTC
I thought it used to be spades, hearts, diamonds, and then clubs, but it seems that the order of suits no longer matters, at least online...anyone know?
Seven answers:
TheMadProfessor
2010-07-13 06:24:45 UTC
Home rules aside, the suits never mattered except when drawing cards to deterimine who deals and such things regarding order of betting.
pdq
2010-07-13 09:28:40 UTC
In almost every major type of poker played today, suit does NOT matter - at least not in determining the winner of a pot.



Folks that are giving flushes as examples are not giving a good example. How many times have you ever seen ALL FIVE cards of a flush being exactly the same as another player? (Like I have the A-J-10-7-3 of Hearts AND my opponent has the A-J-10-7-3 of Spades???) It's just almost never going to happen. If it DID happen, it would be a split pot.



The only time that I ever see the suit matter is in the game of 7-card stud. When deciding who must bet first, the LOWEST card has a 'forced' bet after the first 3 cards have been dealt. (2 down cards, and just 1 up card.) In the event that 2 players have the same value of a low card, (like 2 people have a deuce showing), the player with the lowest value suit will be the player forced to bid first. (Lowest to highest goes in alphabetical order - club, diamond, heart, spade.)
JackAce
2010-07-13 15:31:18 UTC
There is real poker and there is "kiddie poker".



In real poker (poker played online and in casinos), suits don't matter and never mattered. If two people have identical hands, the tie is never broken according to suit.



The only time the suit matters in a casino is

* In a chip race off during a poker tournament

* When determining which hand is the "bring in" in a game like stud, where the lowest hand is forced to bet

* When two hands are tied and there is and extra chip when splitting the pot (this rule may vary from casino to casino)
Divide By Zero
2010-07-13 15:29:05 UTC
In stud, when determining who acts first like pdq said, or when awarding the odd chip.



In some casinos, it determines the odd chip in Hold'em, despite the fact that Robert's Rules say to use proximity to the button. Tropicana in Atlantic City is one example.



You say "anymore" as if there was ever a time when suits determined the winning hand. Was that the case? In which forms of poker?
2010-07-13 21:47:27 UTC
Suits don't matter in the game itself. However, when deciding the button when opening a new table at the casino it is usually the high card that gets awarded the button. If there is a tie the suit is used to determine the winner.

http://www.areyouapokerfish.com/
vicangel1
2010-07-13 07:30:34 UTC
it only matters when its decleared post playing..there are certain games that it does count, but i can't recall the names of them...most online sites dont give them any power except in flushes, even then a ten high spades flush would be the same as a ten high hearts flush, Ace of clubs is just as powerful as a Ace of diamonds, etc.
QW3RTY
2010-07-13 07:08:33 UTC
The suit make no difference(online and live casinos)!



Hope this helps you


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